Episode 24
Phishing 3.0: AI Threats Beyond Email (ft. Ironscales CEO)
October 3rd, 2025
1 hr 4 mins 3 secs
Season 2
About this Episode
This week on the Scinary Information Nexus, we're joined by a special guest, Eyal Benishti, the CEO of our email security partner, Ironscales!
Richard, Brazos, Joseph, and John sit down with Eyal to discuss the massive shifts in the threat landscape, from the early days of obvious malware attachments (Phishing 1.0) to the sophisticated social engineering attacks that plague businesses today (Phishing 2.0).
But the real focus is on the future: What is "Phishing 3.0"? Eyal breaks down how generative AI, deepfake voice and video, and prompt injection attacks are creating a new reality where phishing is no longer confined to email. We explore how attackers are using tools like Teams, Slack, and other communication channels to create persistent, multi-modal attacks that are virtually indistinguishable from legitimate requests. How do we fight back when we can't trust what we see and hear? The answer lies in adaptive, agentic AI.
In this episode, we discuss:
- The origin story of Ironscales and why a new approach to email security was needed.
- Phishing 1.0 vs 2.0 vs 3.0: The evolution of the attack.
- Why traditional Secure Email Gateways (SEGs) miss modern threats.
- Deepfakes & Voice Cloning: The weaponization of generative AI.
- Agentic AI: How to fight fire with fire.
- The future of security: Protecting communication, not just email inboxes.
- Why the "human in the loop" is still critical for training AI models.
- How your employees can become your strongest defense layer.
As AI makes attacks more convincing than ever, how do we rebuild trust in our digital communications? Let's discuss.
Connect with our guest, Eyal Benishti, and Ironscales:
https://www.ironscales.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/eyalbd1
Connect with Scinary Cybersecurity:
https://www.scinary.com
https://x.com/scinarycyber
https://www.linkedin.com/company/scinarycyber/